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Dec 8th, 2020 at 6:47am
 
The WI Do Nothing Rangers will let this one through just like all the rest.

The Crawford Stewardship Project and Midwest Environmental Advocates sent a letter to the DNR last week voicing concerns about a new facility proposed by Roth Feeder Pig, Inc.

The farm already operates a CAFO in Crawford County and has applied for a permit from the DNR for a new facility.

The letter also includes a petitioned signed by more than 200 county residents asking for a full environmental impact statement (EIS) to be prepared as part of the state's review of Roth's permit application.

"This operation would be by far the largest in the county," Forest Jahnke, program coordinator of the Crawford Stewardship Project. "If taken in combination with the current facility — and they’re only about four miles away as the crow flies — this would be the largest hog CAFO in the state of Wisconsin on arguably one of the most ecologically and water-sensitive areas of the state."


https://www.wpr.org/crawford-county-residents-call-dnr-review-proposed-hog-cafo



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Reply #1 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 9:01am
 
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Reply #2 - Dec 17th, 2020 at 11:43pm
 
Thanks for the info.

CAFOs are wrong in so many ways it's hard to keep track of them all.
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Reply #3 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 9:53am
 
From the Coulee Region TU FB page...

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We can use some help getting an environmental impact statement as a requirement for what is proposed to be the state's largest CAFO in Crawford County.

At nearly 3,000 animal units, the operation is estimated to produce nearly 9.5 million gallons of manure per year which is proposed to be spread over 1,295 acres. Simple math works out to about 7,300 gallons per acre. (numbers from the permit application:  https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/topic/CAFO/RothII). They will create approximately the same amount of waste as a city of 30,000 people.


We think this should require an environmental impact statement and could use your help in making that happen. We understand it is VERY difficult to prevent a CAFO from being approved but we at least want to be sure that this operation - and others to follow - have every safeguard in place to ensure the health of our streams and our citizens.

From the Driftless Angler FB page: 
"Contact Brian Weigel the DNR watershed Management Director at 608-225-4964 and demand an environmental impact statement.
This is another probe into how much pushback there will be to this type of factory.  Support family farms and healthy water, call today!
https://secure.everyaction.com/RbwxQ7tia0S6H7YXJFCOyQ2


The fact is it is really hard to prevent a CAFO from getting approved. It is almost as if agricultural interests wrote the laws  Roll Eyes

But we can certainly fight to make sure they do the least damage as possible - a number that is always going to be greater than zero.
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Reply #4 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 1:37pm
 
JGF wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 9:53am:
The fact is it is really hard to prevent a CAFO from getting approved. 


Why for.  Who mandates that the DNR HAS TO issue the permit?  The DNR might as well not even exist if that's the case. 

Especially when they can't even follow their own mission statement.

Wisconsin DNR Mission Statement:

To protect and enhance our natural resources: our air, land and water; our wildlife, fish and forests and the ecosystems that sustain all life. To provide a healthy, sustainable environment and a full range of outdoor opportunities.

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Reply #5 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 8:25am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
To provide a...full range of outdoor opportunities.


Piggies out-of-doors.
Well, there's your loophole, eh?

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Reply #6 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:36am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
JGF wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 9:53am:
The fact is it is really hard to prevent a CAFO from getting approved. 


Why for.  Who mandates that the DNR HAS TO issue the permit?  The DNR might as well not even exist if that's the case. 

Especially when they can't even follow their own mission statement.

Wisconsin DNR Mission Statement:

To protect and enhance our natural resources: our air, land and water; our wildlife, fish and forests and the ecosystems that sustain all life. To provide a healthy, sustainable environment and a full range of outdoor opportunities.




Take it up with them...

It's not just the DNR but DATCP who approves the animal siting applications. There are basically two ways to have a CAFO not approved according to the laws as they are written.

1. Local ordinances and county or township boards can have regulations in place to prevent them or they can not permit things like building permits, etc. that make the factory farms possible. They're mostly run by farmers in rural counties so this doesn't happen very often.

Crawford County just removed their CAFO moratorium, not surprisingly this farm "popped up" the moment that the moratorium didn't get passed again. 

2. Human health - if it can be shown that a factory farm will have a substantial negative effect on human health, the permit can be denied. As the laws are written, they are all written to get these farms approved. Demonstrating negative effects on human health are the only way to have much of a shot at not having a CAFO approved.

Hell, we were told that Wild Rose Dairy's previous spills could not be used to justify not approving their most recent application. It sucks but those are the laws that the DNR is forced to follow - they don't write them.

Care about this issue, you need to work to get the laws changed to make the environmental review more meaningful. Not going to get political but it's going to be REALLY tough but it's worth the fight.

There seem to be 2 ways to get the laws changed - local ordinances / moratorium and at the state level - which is much more difficult but will have a greater impact.
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Reply #7 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 11:32pm
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
JGF wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 9:53am:
The fact is it is really hard to prevent a CAFO from getting approved. 


Why for.  Who mandates that the DNR HAS TO issue the permit?  The DNR might as well not even exist if that's the case. 

Especially when they can't even follow their own mission statement.

Wisconsin DNR Mission Statement:

To protect and enhance our natural resources: our air, land and water; our wildlife, fish and forests and the ecosystems that sustain all life. To provide a healthy, sustainable environment and a full range of outdoor opportunities.



My guess is that the answer lies somewhere within the Walker administration.
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Reply #8 - Dec 20th, 2020 at 9:21pm
 
Mark_Nash wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 11:32pm:
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
JGF wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 9:53am:
The fact is it is really hard to prevent a CAFO from getting approved. 


Why for.  Who mandates that the DNR HAS TO issue the permit?  The DNR might as well not even exist if that's the case. 

Especially when they can't even follow their own mission statement.

Wisconsin DNR Mission Statement:

To protect and enhance our natural resources: our air, land and water; our wildlife, fish and forests and the ecosystems that sustain all life. To provide a healthy, sustainable environment and a full range of outdoor opportunities.



My guess is that the answer lies somewhere within the Walker administration.



I agree.  I am surprised it is still that way though.
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Reply #9 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:40am
 
JGF wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 10:36am:
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
JGF wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 9:53am:
The fact is it is really hard to prevent a CAFO from getting approved. 


Why for.  Who mandates that the DNR HAS TO issue the permit?  The DNR might as well not even exist if that's the case. 

Especially when they can't even follow their own mission statement.

Wisconsin DNR Mission Statement:

To protect and enhance our natural resources: our air, land and water; our wildlife, fish and forests and the ecosystems that sustain all life. To provide a healthy, sustainable environment and a full range of outdoor opportunities.




Take it up with them...

It's not just the DNR but DATCP who approves the animal siting applications. There are basically two ways to have a CAFO not approved according to the laws as they are written.

1. Local ordinances and county or township boards can have regulations in place to prevent them or they can not permit things like building permits, etc. that make the factory farms possible. They're mostly run by farmers in rural counties so this doesn't happen very often.

Crawford County just removed their CAFO moratorium, not surprisingly this farm "popped up" the moment that the moratorium didn't get passed again. 

2. Human health - if it can be shown that a factory farm will have a substantial negative effect on human health, the permit can be denied. As the laws are written, they are all written to get these farms approved. Demonstrating negative effects on human health are the only way to have much of a shot at not having a CAFO approved.

Hell, we were told that Wild Rose Dairy's previous spills could not be used to justify not approving their most recent application. It sucks but those are the laws that the DNR is forced to follow - they don't write them.

Care about this issue, you need to work to get the laws changed to make the environmental review more meaningful. Not going to get political but it's going to be REALLY tough but it's worth the fight.

There seem to be 2 ways to get the laws changed - local ordinances / moratorium and at the state level - which is much more difficult but will have a greater impact.


Thanks for the explanation. I didn't know what the whole process involved and didn't understand why the DNR can't just deny the permits.

So the health of the local fisheries and well water contamination is ignored is what I'm hearing.
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Reply #10 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:35am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 8:40am:
So the health of the local fisheries and well water contamination is ignored is what I'm hearing.


Sadly, pretty much. The administrative laws that the DNR and DATCP have to follow were certainly written for agricultural interests to win.

Was part of a meeting a few weeks back on the topic and came out of it pretty depressed. Administrative laws have to be changed for there to be changes on the ground. Everything is set up for livestock siting permits to be approved.

Well contamination is probably much more likely to derail a project due to the human health effects.
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Reply #11 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:39am
 
Further North wrote on Dec 20th, 2020 at 9:21pm:
I agree.  I am surprised it is still that way though.


The issue is that the legislature are the only ones that can change administrative law. I don't think they've met in 9 months...
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Reply #12 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 10:48am
 
JGF wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:35am:
Well contamination is probably much more likely to derail a project due to the human health effects.


Doesn't appear well contamination is having any effect on the process.

Study of SW WI Well Contamination
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Reply #13 - Dec 21st, 2020 at 2:56pm
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 10:48am:
JGF wrote on Dec 21st, 2020 at 9:35am:
Well contamination is probably much more likely to derail a project due to the human health effects.


Doesn't appear well contamination is having any effect on the process.

Study of SW WI Well Contamination



Agreed, nor has it done a whole lot in Kewaunee County (that I know of, at least).

It's a heck of an up hill battle, for sure. It rather sucks.
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Reply #14 - Dec 22nd, 2020 at 8:51am
 
Mark_Nash wrote on Dec 19th, 2020 at 11:32pm:
My guess is that the answer lies somewhere within the Walker administration.


What about previous administrations that also let this happen?

CAFOs were started and growing long before Walker was around.
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