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Reply #15 - Sep 1st, 2020 at 10:38am
 
John K wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 7:22am:
I thought TU response was to partner up with the state and award factory farms Green Tier status


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Reply #16 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 11:15am
 
From Eric Struck: 

STATE OF WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES
SECOND PUBLIC NOTICE OF AVAILABILITY OF A NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND
INFORMATIONAL HEARING AND INTENT TO REISSUE A WISCONSIN POLLUTANT DISCHARGE
ELIMINATION SYSTEM (WPDES) PERMIT No.WI-0059072-04-0

Permittee: Wild Rose Dairy LLC, E11310 Buckeye Ridge Road, La Farge, WI, 54639

Facility Where Discharge Occurs: Wild Rose Dairy LLC, E11310 Buckeye Ridge Road La Farge

Receiving Water And Location: Surface water and groundwater within the Bear Creek- Kickapoo River
Watersheds

On July 30, 2020 the Department Public Noticed its intent to reissue WPDES Permit WI-0059072-04-0 to Wild Rose Dairy LLC. A subsequent hearing was requested. This notice includes the information required to register for the virtual hearing. Registration is required for the virtual hearing.

Brief Facility Description : Wild Rose Dairy is an existing Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation (CAFO). Wild
Rose Dairy is owned by Wild Rose Dairy LLC and operated by David Abt and Dustin Harris. It currently has
1,784 animal units. (985 milking and dry cows, 389 heifers and 300 calves). Wild Rose Dairy has a total of 2,043 acres available for land application of manure and process wastewater. Of this acreage, 794 acres are owned and 1,249 acres are rented. Wild Rose Dairy has submitted an application for reissuance of their Wisconsin Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (WPDES) permit. The application is complete, and the facility has been determined to be in substantial compliance. This will be the third permit reissuance for this facility. Wild Rose Dairy has a planned expansion to 2,812 animal units by 2022 (1,540 milking and dry cows, 648 heifers, and 324 calves). With the expansion Wild Rose Dairy plans to construct a new heifer barn, two manure storages, and upgrades to the feed storage area. Plans will be approved by the Department. Wild Rose Dairy has an approved Nutrient Management Plan (NMP) that is written according to WPDES permit and Chapter NR 243 Wis. Adm. Code requirements.
The Department has referred the farm to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for enforcement related to previous discharge events and failing to timely submit a complete application for permit reissuance.

The farm has since submitted a complete permit application and is currently in substantial compliance and has fulfilled all requirements for permit reissuance. The enforcement action at DOJ is separate from this permitting action. Issuance of a permit to
the farm does not resolve or in any way affect the outstanding enforcement action at the Department of Justice.

The Department has tentatively decided that the above specified WPDES permit should be reissued.

Permit Drafter’s Name, Address, Phone and Email: Eric Struck, DNR, 3911 Fish Hatchery Rd, Fitchburg, WI,
53711-5367, 608-422-1512, Eric.Struck@wisconsin.gov

Informational Hearing Date, Time, and Location:

October 13, 2020, 2 pm, Virtual Hearing using Zoom. If you want to attend the hearing, please fill out the
registration form at the following link:

https://zoom.us/j/92639454769

To call in the day of, after registration, please use the following number and access code:

Meeting ID: 926 3945 4769
Dial by your location: +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

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Reply #17 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 11:24am
 
The Department of Natural Resources, pursuant to Section 283.49, Wisconsin Statutes, has scheduled a public informational hearing for the purpose of giving all interested persons an opportunity to make a statement with respect to the proposed permit action, the terms of the nutrient management plan, and the application for this operation.

The hearing officer will conduct the hearing in an orderly fashion and will use procedures specified in Subchapter II
of ch. NR 203, Wis. Adm. Code, necessary to insure broad public participation in the hearing.

The hearing office will open the hearing and make a concise statement of the scope and purpose of the hearing and shall state what procedures will be use during the course of the hearing. The hearing officer shall explain the method of notification of the final decision to grant or deny the permit and the methods by which the decision may be reviewed in a public adjudicatory hearing.

The hearing officer may place limits on individual oral statements to insure an opportunity for all persons present to make statements in a reasonable period of time and to prevent undue repetition. The hearing officer may also limit the number of representatives making oral statements on behalf of any person or group.
Informational and clarifying questions and oral statements shall be directed through the hearing officer. Crossexamination shall not be allowed.

Persons wishing to comment on or object to the proposed permit action, the terms of the nutrient management plan,or the application, are invited to do so by attending the public hearing or by submitting any comments or objections in writing to the Department of Natural Resources, at the above named permit drafter’s address. All comments or suggestions received from members of the public no later than 7 days following the date of this public hearing will be used, along with other information on file and testimony presented at the hearing, in making a final determination. Anyone providing comments in response to this public notice will receive a notification of the Department’s final decision regarding permit coverage. Where designated as a reviewable surface water discharge permit, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is allowed up to 90 days to submit comments or objections regarding this permit determination.

Information on file for this permit action, including the draft permit and fact sheet (if required), the operation’s
nutrient management plan and application may be inspected and copied at the permit drafter’s office, Monday through Friday (except holidays), between 9:00 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. Please call the permit drafter for directions to their office location, if necessary. Information on this permit action may also be obtained by calling the permit drafter at (608) 275-3485 or by writing to the Department. Reasonable costs (15 cents per page for copies and 7 cents per page for scanning) will be charged for information in the file other than the public notice and fact sheet. Permit information is also available on the internet at:

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wastewater/PublicNotices.html.

Pursuant to the Americans with Disabilities Act, reasonable accommodation, including the provision of
informational material in an alternative format, will be made to qualified individuals upon request.

NAME OF PUBLISHING NEWSPAPER: Epitaph-News
ADDRESS OF PUBLISHING NEWSPAPER: 116 E Commercial St. PO Box 295, Viola, WI 54664
Date Notice Issued: September 10, 2020
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Reply #18 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 4:30pm
 
^^^Nothing more than standard procedure because they have to by law.  Business will continue as usual.

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Reply #19 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 5:57pm
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 4:30pm:
^^^Nothing more than standard procedure because they have to by law.  Business will continue as usual.




Totally but I'm all for getting on the online meeting and shaming them for 2 spills and hoping that it means that the DNR at least fines them for the last 2 spills.

The rules are written for CAFOs to win - they have money, they have the laws written for them...it is how the world works. At least some folks are fighting the good fight, even it is mostly for naught. I'm up for a public shaming for a 2 time spiller.
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Reply #20 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 7:48pm
 
JGF wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 5:57pm:
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 4:30pm:
^^^Nothing more than standard procedure because they have to by law.  Business will continue as usual.




Totally but I'm all for getting on the online meeting and shaming them for 2 spills and hoping that it means that the DNR at least fines them for the last 2 spills.

The rules are written for CAFOs to win - they have money, they have the laws written for them...it is how the world works. At least some folks are fighting the good fight, even it is mostly for naught. I'm up for a public shaming for a 2 time spiller. 


^^^^ This.

I can't stand people bitching about things and then sitting on their hands because "you can't fight the system".  Well, it ain't gonna change unless you get off your ass and do something about it.

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Re: CAFO Expansion for perrenial polluters
Reply #21 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 10:02pm
 
GerardH wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 7:48pm:
JGF wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 5:57pm:
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 4:30pm:
^^^Nothing more than standard procedure because they have to by law.  Business will continue as usual.




Totally but I'm all for getting on the online meeting and shaming them for 2 spills and hoping that it means that the DNR at least fines them for the last 2 spills.

The rules are written for CAFOs to win - they have money, they have the laws written for them...it is how the world works. At least some folks are fighting the good fight, even it is mostly for naught. I'm up for a public shaming for a 2 time spiller. 


^^^^ This.

I can't stand people bitching about things and then sitting on their hands because "you can't fight the system".  Well, it ain't gonna change unless you get off your ass and do something about it.


Absolutely. Just because the laws are written to give CAFOs an advantage and to shut you up doesn’t mean you have to roll over and die. In fact, it’s the exact reason you need to speak up.
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Reply #22 - Sep 13th, 2020 at 11:22am
 
Just received a notification from the DNR of the Dachel Hog Farm permit in the Elk Creek (Chippewa Cty) watershed stamped "no public comment" -- 2 million gallons of liquid hog manure annually.  Here's the link to the cached fact sheet: 

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SZdFQLf9oBoJ:https://dnr.w
isconsin.gov/sites/default/files/topic/Wastewater/DachelHogFarm_FS.pdf+&cd=1&hl=
en&ct=clnk&gl=us


You may have to copy & paste the URL since it doesn't want to link up here.
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Reply #23 - Sep 14th, 2020 at 10:34am
 
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Reply #24 - Sep 14th, 2020 at 10:39am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Sep 14th, 2020 at 10:34am:


...and that's what we need to do -- keep fighting.  This isn't something we can "oh well" it away.
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Reply #25 - Sep 14th, 2020 at 10:43am
 
From the article...

Almost 20 members of the public were on the Zoom meeting, but were not provided an opportunity to make public comments prior to the vote being taken.

Huh

Wonder how the virtual meeting will go for Wild Rose? 
Bad thing about the zoom meeting for Wild Rose is that it's 2pm.  Most folks will be working and probably can't attend.
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Reply #26 - Sep 18th, 2020 at 9:12am
 
If your every curious about how much we as taxpayers are funding for a given farm. Here is a good place to start looking.

https://farm.ewg.org/top_recips.php?fips=55123&progcode=totalfarm&regionname=Ver...

Poor farmers are barely getting by in Vernon county . From 1995 to 2019 a number of these operations received over a million dollars in taxpayer subsidies.

Wild rose is of interest?



Wild Rose is number 3 on the list with over a $1,000,000 in taxpayer handouts the last 25 years.


I see through the great ones proclamations another 13 Billion dollars was promised to the struggling farmers.

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Reply #27 - Oct 14th, 2020 at 9:20am
 
So how did the zoom meeting go yesterday?
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Reply #28 - Oct 14th, 2020 at 2:32pm
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Oct 14th, 2020 at 9:20am:
So how did the zoom meeting go yesterday?



I couldn't make it but a friend attended. He said the first half hour were procedural readings. There was a lot of opposition to plan and it drew what sounded like a pretty good crowd. 

In the end, it is not going to matter - they'll get the permit. It's the way the system is set up to work.

I just hope that they at least get fined for their spills going back 3 years now.

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Reply #29 - Oct 14th, 2020 at 4:47pm
 
JGF wrote on Oct 14th, 2020 at 2:32pm:
In the end, it is not going to matter - they'll get the permit. It's the way the system is set up to work. I just hope that they at least get fined for their spills going back 3 years now. 


Those above comments should be moved to the Quarantine Humor section  Smiley
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