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Jul 31st, 2020 at 7:45pm
 
https://www.swnews4u.com/local/public-safety/lafarges-wild-rose-dairy-responsibl...

Wild Rose Dairy, LLC is on the headwater of Otter Creek. They've had 2 spills that have resulted in very large fish kills. They killed 1165 fish in 2017 and 667 in 2019 which are undoubtedly the lowest end estimates (these are recovered fishes - many will never be recovered).

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“Persons wishing to comment on or object to the proposed permit action, the terms of the nutrient management plan, or the application, or to request a public informational hearing may write to the Department of Natural Resources at the permit draftees address. All comments or suggestions received no later than 30 days [from July 30, 2020] after the publication date of this public notice will be considered along with other information on file in making a final decision regarding the permit. Anyone providing comments in response to this public notice will receive a notification of the Department’s final decision when the permit is re-issued.”

“The Department may schedule a public informational hearing if within 30 days of the public date of this notice, a request for a hearing is filed by any person. The Department shall schedule a public informational hearing if a petition requesting a hearing is received from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, or from five or more persons, or if the Department determines there is significant public interest.”

To submit a comment, and/or to request that a public informational hearing be scheduled and held, contact:

Eric Struck

WDNR Senior Wastewater Specialist

3911 Fish Hatchery Road

Fitchburg, WI 53711-5367

608-275-3485

Eric.Struck@wisconsin.gov
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Reply #1 - Aug 3rd, 2020 at 8:40am
 
And here I thought biodegradable soap was a problem.  Smiley


In that legal notice, it is stated that “the department has tentatively decided that the above specified WPDES permit should be reissued.”


Public comment won't matter.  The DNR has already decided they will issue the permit.
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Reply #2 - Aug 3rd, 2020 at 10:45am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Aug 3rd, 2020 at 8:40am:
And here I thought biodegradable soap was a problem.  Smiley


In that legal notice, it is stated that “the department has tentatively decided that the above specified WPDES permit should be reissued.”


Public comment won't matter.  The DNR has already decided they will issue the permit.



I know - but it felt good to write a letter and I'd love to see a public hearing to shame them a bit if nothing else.

I can't begin to tell you how pissed off I am that they've never been fined for their 2 previous fish kills. But agriculture owns the state and it's even worse at the county and township levels.
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Reply #3 - Aug 3rd, 2020 at 11:55am
 
Apparently CAFO's are exempt from the WI DNR mission statement.

Two manure spills in two years...Yay!!! Let's issue them another permit!!!

What's even worse their current permit has been expired since 2015, The DOJ has taken no enforcement action for the 2017 and 2019 spills and yet the DNR is stating they should be issued another permit.  Who is this bozo named Eric Struck?

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Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2020 at 3:47pm
 
Eric Struck is the DNR's wastewater specialist.  https://dnr.wi.gov/staffdir/_newsearch/ContactSearchResultsExt.aspx?cno=39932&cS...

Email sent to Struck.
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Reply #5 - Aug 5th, 2020 at 9:48am
 
Rhetorical question G.    Roll Eyes

But that would be a good start if he actually will listen. But I highly doubt it. Like I said...sounds like he has already decided he's going to issue it.  The rest of the fluff about public comment blah, blah, blah is nothing more than formality.

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Reply #6 - Aug 5th, 2020 at 9:53am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 9:48am:
Rhetorical question G.    Roll Eyes

But that would be a good start if he actually will listen. But I highly doubt it. Like I said...sounds like he has already decided he's going to issue it.  The rest of the fluff about public comment blah, blah, blah is nothing more than formality.



Tough hop, Jizzy_P -- you asked the question.   Kiss

Struck didn't give much of a response to my email, but more people need to get in contact with him and air their concerns.
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Reply #7 - Aug 5th, 2020 at 10:47am
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 9:48am:
Rhetorical question G.    Roll Eyes

But that would be a good start if he actually will listen. But I highly doubt it. Like I said...sounds like he has already decided he's going to issue it.  The rest of the fluff about public comment blah, blah, blah is nothing more than formality.




Blame the politicians that allow it, not the foot soldiers that have little to no say in the approval process. They've set it up adding to permits as a rubber stamp. They've also done away with a number of inspector positions and fairly recently shot down attempts to reestablish those positions.

What I thought was particularly dumb was it was fairly clearly stated that their past experiences does not have an effect on this permit's approval process. Why on Earth does that not matter? You run a bad farm that's had 2 spills that resulted in fish kills, that should absolutely matter.

In the end, the letters probably won't matter but it felt kind of good to write one.
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Reply #8 - Aug 5th, 2020 at 11:43am
 
JGF wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 10:47am:
In the end, the letters probably won't matter but it felt kind of good to write one.


It probably won't, but I figure it better to do something rather than me sitting on my hands and bitch about it.  I would hope if they collect enough public comment against the approval that it may carry some weight. 
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Reply #9 - Aug 5th, 2020 at 1:59pm
 
JGF wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 10:47am:
Blame the politicians that allow it, not the foot soldiers that have little to no say in the approval process. They've set it up adding to permits as a rubber stamp. They've also done away with a number of inspector positions and fairly recently shot down attempts to reestablish those positions.


Yes/No.   A little of both.

State audit finds DNR ignoring own rules on water pollution...

State Audit


The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources is statutorily responsible for enforcing federal clean water regulations in the state, and as part of that responsibility the agency issues permits that set rules for releasing pollutants into the state's waters.


CAFO Oversight

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Reply #10 - Aug 5th, 2020 at 2:13pm
 

The DNR's staffing levels for CAFO permitting and enforcement has been one policy matter in the deliberations over Wisconsin's 2019-21 state budget. Where the funding for proposed new positions would come from shaped up to be a political sticking point.

The DNR's CAFO oversight program has long been largely subsidized by general state tax revenues. According to the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, staffing for the program cost the state nearly $2.2 million during its 2018-19 fiscal year. CAFOs are required to pay a $345 annual permit fee, but only $95 of is directed toward the DNR's oversight program. The rest goes toward the state's general fund, meaning the fees supported less than 2% of the program's cost during that fiscal year.


That's  a lot of money.  Would be better to abolish factory farms in the whole state.  Saves tax payers money.  Saves our natural resources.  Win-Win.
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Reply #12 - Aug 24th, 2020 at 12:03pm
 
Jizzy Pearl wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 2:13pm:
The DNR's staffing levels for CAFO permitting and enforcement has been one policy matter in the deliberations over Wisconsin's 2019-21 state budget. Where the funding for proposed new positions would come from shaped up to be a political sticking point.

The DNR's CAFO oversight program has long been largely subsidized by general state tax revenues. According to the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, staffing for the program cost the state nearly $2.2 million during its 2018-19 fiscal year. CAFOs are required to pay a $345 annual permit fee, but only $95 of is directed toward the DNR's oversight program. The rest goes toward the state's general fund, meaning the fees supported less than 2% of the program's cost during that fiscal year.


That's  a lot of money.  Would be better to abolish factory farms in the whole state.  Saves tax payers money.  Saves our natural resources.  Win-Win.


Jizzy Pearl wrote on Aug 5th, 2020 at 2:19pm:


I'm 100% with you.

A huge hidden cost in the factory farms?  Subsidies.  We pay on the front end, we pay to monitor, and then we pay again when the screw up and dump stuff that has to be cleaned up.
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Reply #13 - Aug 25th, 2020 at 9:22am
 
CRTU is doing their first online (Zoom) membership meeting and the main subject will be CAFO's and TU's position on them. Tomorrow evening (Wednesday, August 26th) at 7PM.

Linn Beck, who lead the writing of the Central Wisconsin TU CAFO paper which has been adopted by other chapters, is our guest. He is also our (Wisconsin's) National Leadership Council representative.

Here's the Nohr Chapter's position paper:

https://www.nohrtu.org/pdffiles/HARRY%20AND%20LAURA%20NOHR%20TROUT%20UNLIMITED%2...

And the CRTU FB page if you want to RSVP to get the link to attend the meeting.

https://www.facebook.com/couleetu/

If you're not a Facebooker, you can shoot me a message and I'll send you the information for the meeting. We're not publicly posting the link to try to prevent Zoom-trolls.
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Reply #14 - Sep 1st, 2020 at 7:22am
 
I thought TU response was to partner up with the state and award factory farms Green Tier status
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